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will get more revenue because this will grow the economy. these pro growth tax reforms, ronald reagan and thomas "tip" o'neill did it, simpson-bowles proposals it. we prepare it. lower tax rates. broaden the tax rate. that is a pro growth solution to get people to work. that gets higher take home pay and lets people keep more of what they earn. under the country code you send a bunch of your money to washington and if you do what we approve in washington we might let you keep some of it. that is picking winners and losers. >>neil: you mentioned simpson-bowles and you voted against it. >>guest: i liked that part of it. >>neil: your critics say you do not deliver the goods. >>guest: if you don't like the plan that someone put on the table, puts your plan on the table. i did that. mitt romney offered a plan. president obama has don't that. he disavoided simpson-bowles and offered no alternate. we took what we liked in simpson-bowles and added more reforms. i didn't support simpson-bowles is because it didn't address the primary driver of our debt which is health care programs. health car

, they knew jimmy carter was going to look at ronald reagan and say, "you were against medicare" at the beginning, happened to be true. but reagan looked at him, shook his head and said, "there you go again." it was really a comment not just on that medicare answer but on everything that carter had said. that's when a zinger works. >> schieffer: what do you think the obama people think they're going to hear from romney? >> one thing that's being telegraphed by the romney folks -- and i wouldn't have telegraphed it if this was a question i wanted to ask-- do you want another four years like the last four years. the president has heard that-- >> that's a question people ask. >> i know, but ronald reagan was smart enough not to say are you better off today than you were four years ago until he got to the debate. the president knows that question is going to be asked and he will be prepared to answer it. five of the last six times an incumbent debated a challenger in a debate, the challenger won. >> that's the question they are asking. they know they are not better off from four yea

country now. it is a miracle that ronald reagan won 49 states without fox news, rush limbaugh, sean hannity, drudge report, with the network's dominant and "the washington post" and "the new york times" ascended. mitt romney is being undone by some conspiracy out of a 7- eleven in falls church? [laughter] >> there was no other reagan. was unique and a political actor unlike any we have seen. putting mitt against him is unfair. he is not a great campaigner. i think he would be a great president, but he is not a great campaigner. evan is right. if the polls are 0.9% in one direction, there probably true. -- 90% in one direction, they are probably true. but you have to apply a formula by who is likely to show up. if you apply the model of the 2008lectorate, you get one result, highly pro-obama. but if you say the electorate will look more like 2004, then the race is even. i think that is the only argument that you could make. t a conirac it is which way you model the electorate, how it breaks down on election day. >> we have a debate coming up, nina. what is your advice to mitt romney?

are into conservative wine country now. [laughter] is a miracle that ronald reagan without fox news, lemmel, sean hannity -- limbaugh, sean hannity, and with the networks' domince and washington post" and "the imes" ascended. poor mitt undone by a a 7-e-eleven in falls church by polling coanies?s? [laughter] >> first of all, there is no reagan. uque, a political actor unlike any we have seen. putting mitt up against him is exactly fair. but he is not a great campaigner. i happen to think he would ba good president, but he is not a great campaigner. on the polls, i think evan i right. 90% are pointing in one rectio they are probably true. -- but there is one issue here. the numbers are wrong, but you to apply a formula when -- numbers are raw, but y have to apply a formula when you look at to ow up.ng you apply the model of the 2008 electorate, you get a that is pro-obama. but if you say it will look more like 2004, then the race is even. that is e only argument you make it t not a conspiracy. o of which way you model the electorate. w it wilill break down election day. >> we have a debate coming

. -- conservative wine country now. [laughter] it is a miracle that ronald reagan, one of 49 states without fox news, rush limbaugh out, and sean hannity, drudge report, the network's dominant and "the new york times" at "the washington post" ascended ent. poor mitt romney, done by some conspiracy out of a settlement in falls church? [laughter] >> reagan was unique and a political actor unlike any we have seen. putting mitt romney against him is not a fair standard. he is not a great campaigner. i happen to think he would be a good position, but he is not a great campaigner. on the polls, evan is right. if 90% are pointing in one direction, is probably true. but you have to apply a formula when you decide to was going to be likely to show. if you apply the model of the 2008 electorate, you get one result, which is highly pressure obama. but if you say the electorate would look -- and the pro obama. but if you say the electorate looks more like 2004, then the race is even. it is not a conspiracy, it is a question of which way to model the electorate and which way is going to break down on election da

and trying to get votes with it. it's so demeaning. >> it's an update of the ronald reagan welfare mean, same racialized politics mitt romney has been playing for the last eight, ten months. this is the -- the welfare requirement, the idea the president is abolishing it, he is taking a gop prescription for reforming welfare and putting it in place, which is giving more power to the states. you know, the details of that, the fact that tons of things the president has embraced are actually rooted in conservative ideology has been a completely lost or disavowed by the republican party. i mean, they -- mitt romney has to win 60% of white voters and will stop at nothing to shore up every white vote he can. and that includes playing to the lowest card in the deck, which is incredibly racially charged, incendiary rhetoric designed to stoke hatred and fulmen, i guess, enthusiasm to get folks out to the polls. >> gene, look at this. every time i see this, i see it infrequently, i cry. i've been accused of being too emotional about politics. four years ago, john mccain stood up to a supporter who calle

happen to subscribe to ronald reagan's maxim that peace comes through strength. i want to have a military that's so strong no one wants to test it. you see, you want to -- >> president obamand mitt romney both making their case to veterans in rginia today. the president talking about ending our trillion-dollar wars, at least eventually, and his opponent talking about ronald reagan. joining us now, john stanton, washington bureau chief at "buzz feed" and it's been way too long since we've had you on show. congratulations on your move,vy way, how is "buzz feed"? of th yid around the convention is you greyhound bused down there, and sort of went out of your way to talk to regular on the street folks who were not necessarily getting, having their opinions plundered by pundits. en you're doing sort of "man on the street" talking to people about politics, do people ever talk about the wars? >> they do. talking, particularly, i was in savannah and talkingo church people that were feeding the working poor and homeless people. there were a lot of veterans there. some of the peop i talked to eyl t

in nation that not just welcomes, but celebrates legal immigrants. americans by choice is what ronald reagan described. our great strength as a nation is that all of us, our ancestors, came from all of real-world seeking freedom and opportunity and we need to remain a nation that celebrates immigrants and secure our border and gets serious about stopping the problem. >> yet that same president coming in 1986 and instituted a program that was effectively, if not literally, amnesty, which has been criticized by members of your party for opening the floodgates. >> i don't think amnesty is the right approach could i don't think that most texans or most americans support it. i think amnesty is unfair to the millions of legal immigrants to wait years and sometimes the kids in line to come here legally. to reward those who broke the law is fundamentally wrong. >> we know the president put into effect prosecutorial discretion, and wait to address the question of children who are undocumented persons in this country. we do not haveomprehensive immigration reform in this country. where should we go? >

that -- and then certainly by 1980, ronald reagan was very behind in the polls was just able to tidal wave over jimmy carter with quips like there you go again in a sort of staged format. since 1980, they have become part of the american landscape. >> the "new york times" recently wrote about this debate prep and the president of the united states is an awesome figure merely to share the platform with him on equal terms is the gain in stature, good performance will be gauged even better. why would any president agree to participate in an event that ultimately -- the -- because it's become now a demand, president obama suddenly bailed on debates. then, you know, he would be seeming like a poor sport. and also these debates are agreed upon long before the fall season, they're everything from the podium to the lighting, everything is worked out between the parties. >> do you think the presidential debate has ever changed the course of an election? >> i definitely do, i think we just talked about 1960, i think it changed it. i think in 1976, in 1980, i think also one could argue in 2000, it would al gore's kind

will turn in a campaign changing performance such as ronald reagan's in 1980. here is the truth about obama and romney, neither a stellar debater. obama didn't shine in the democratic primary debates, biden won them. that's why obama picked biden. candidate obama had a tendency to ramble in the debates, got better during mccain one on ones. while romney did well in this season's gop debates, had rough performances, bet you $10,000 he did. romney performances, the unspoken body language that the camera captured, they were brutal against ted kennedy. ivy league will enjoy biden versus ryan more. trust me. >>> turning back to the brand new battleground polls. there's a different pattern emerging, president obama is ahead in new hampshire, tighter in nevada and north carolina. joining me, director of the marist poll. good to see you in person. >> welcome to the home of the new york yankees. >> you're going to blow the playoff run. >> i am worried. >> we want the beltway series in washington. we have been looking at this as sort of the generic, the general all nine states. what is your take away

the liberal media for the campaign's troubles. the press didn't treat ronald reagan and george w. bush any less unfairly, and both men managed not only to win the presidency but to get re-elected. mr. romney would do better to focus more on reducing his unforced errors and less on the fourth estate's political bias. if whining about the liberal media was a winning strategy for republicans, newt gingrich would be the nominee." >> well, and newt gingrich is a great example -- i don't mean to go back there -- a great example of the problem we're talking about here. because -- >> no. >> -- no, instead of stepping forward and separating himself from this candidate, he somehow, because of his party -- >> todd akin is going to lose. that's a distraction. >> it is. >> i'm talking about the presidential race. we're one week out from the first presidential debate, and we have brand-new polling out this morning from three separate swing states that show this race is slipping away. >> and they're the big three. >> and they're the big three, mika. >> yes, they are. are you ready? >> i'm ready for you t

given the possibility of what we saw in 1984 with ronald reagan and in 1980 with ronald reagan and jimmy carter where there really was a mood change. >> sure, but let's also remember that as john made reference to john kerry in 2004, he moved the needle, but he didn't move the needle nearly far enough. and the fact is that in 18 of the last 19 presidential elections whosever been leading at this point has led the popular vote. >> you remember how close kerry came, if he had won a small number in ohio, he would have been president. >> i understand that. >> and also if he had gnat gone windsurfing in nantucket. willie, the thing is, we talk about the 47% video, i'm hearing more and more people in the romney campaign as every day goes by, they understand more and more that they made a huge mistake with that libyan press conference. i'm not going to say that it was sort of that september 15th moment, the economy is sound, but john mccain last time, but i can't tell you how many pollsters are telling me that that was -- it made him look unpresidential. "the wall street journal" leading with t

crying. his not that guy. he shouldn't pretend to be that guy. he shouldn't pretend to be ronald reagan because he's not ronald reagan. he should simply run on his credentials and experience. and that's what he'll mostly try to do. >> as you point out, not take newt gingrich's advice and not try to be funny either. tim stanley, we shall see. tim stanley in london. you can read tim's column, go to cnn.com/opinion. >>> don't forget, another reminder for you, tomorrow night, first debate right here on cnn. and of course on cnn.com. special coverage begins at 7:00 eastern time. >>> republicans say a new pennsylvania law is to stop voter fraud. democrats say baloney. today, a judge weighed in. his ruling next. [ male announcer ] the 2013 smart comes with 8 airbags, a crash management system and the world's only tridion safety cell which can withstand over three and a half tons. small in size. big on safety. by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what

a hostage crisis. we're going to talk about ronald reagan. msnbc, they converted the scott brown, our beloved scott brown versus elizabeth warren that she checked off falsely that she is cherokee. she has the lowest requirements of any professor of any of the top law schools. she refuses to release that information. everyone knows she stole someone else's. she is -- he is being attacked to raise the issue. he is attacking for her being a cherokee. no. it's exactly the opposite. it's about not being a cherokee and she is related not to cherokee but to a white enforcer to trail of tears. she is stealing the suffering of native americans to teach from harvard law school and you wouldn't know that from listening to msnbc. >> your book is you say, how liberals have played the race card historically you believe to win black voters? >> for a hundred years they denounced black people to win a segment of the white vote,. now, they are still using race to win votes not only from black people. keep telling them republicans hate them but from white people who don't want to feel racist. it isn't a

one ready to go but make it look like it came off the top of your head. ronald reagan was a master at that. let me play a little clip. >> i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i'm not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> it was a good one. it got a great laugh. perry, an argue was mamt by roger simon in politico this morning that mitt romney needs to have a few jokes to leave people with the impression he's a regular guy and not some cardboard cutout. how important are one liners and jakes? perry? >> it's so -- >> i'm sorry. robert. sorry. gosh. >> that's okay. i was waiting for that. it's very important because obviously what american people are looking for, they both know that these individuals are smart. what they're looking for is some type of personal impression by saying, you know what? i like this guy. not only does he get the job of being president, but he's funny and humorous as well. even george w. bush was good at that in 2004 and 2000. the question is whether mitt romney can connect with the american people. most know

contender worthy of the white house. it's happened before. john kennedy, ronald reagan, george w. bush, all bounced higher in the polls after credible debate performances and went on to win the white house. whatever the outcome, most agree it's the debates that will give us our best opportunity to evaluate these candidates, sort out their positions and separate truth from fiction. not a moment too soon. according to a new survey from the annenberg public policy center at the university of pennsylvania, with a little over a month to go before election day, the public has a lot to learn about the 2012 presidential race. among its findings, only 51% know the romney-ryan plan would preserve traditional medicare for those 55 and older and retain it as an option for those now younger than that. only about half knew that mitt romney would keep the bush tax cuts in place. fewer than half knew that romney and not obama had promised to increase defense spending. only 23% were aware that payroll taxes had decreased during obama's term in office. only slightly more than half knew that paul ryan is the

humor, and i'm hoping they will both take a page like ronald reagan did or george bush did. >> dean, thank you very much. it's nice. >> thanks, gary. >>> thank you very much for watching us today. state of the union with candy crowley starts right now. >>> romney's chance to shake things up may come down to four and a half hours. >>> today this week's denver debate. the first of three 09-minute faceoffs. obama versus romney. >> how is it that you're the expert on my position when my position has been very clear? i'll tell you -- >> i'm the expert. i'm the expert, and i'm -- >> when he suggests that senator obama's plan is dangerous -- >> that's not the case. what he said was a precipitous withdrawal would be dangerous. he did not say -- >> he said -- >> sizing up the showdown with a man who has debated both 2012 candidates republican senator john mccain, and then the risk of being the frontrunner with obama's senior advisor david axelrod. plus, polls, ads, and early voting. with republican strategist alex castellanos, and cinderella and congressional correspondent dana bash. i'm can

eventually, and his opponent talking about ronald reagan. joining us now, john stanton, washington bureau chief at "buzz feed" and it's been way too long since we've had you on show. congtulations on yr moy s "buzz feed"? >> it's awe? >> one of the things you did around the convention is you greyhound bused down there, and sort of went out of your way to talk to regular on the street folks who were not necessarily und pus. hg eir inio when you're doing sort of "man on the street" talking to people about politics, do people ever talk about the wars? >> they do. talking, particularly, i was in savannah and talking to church people that re feeding the oprking poor andomel there.f van some of the people i talked to on the bus were veterans. they feel like their plight as the working poor in this country, no one is really talking about the wars anymore. president obama talks about it, sort of generally, his accomplishments, but he doesn't talk about so much going forrd and what's going to happen. i think a lot of people have become fatigued with it. even these people, some of them have gone th

the candidates who was ahead of the polls ended up winning in the end. presidents john kennedy, ronald reagan, and george w. bush were all tied or behind, scott, and they pulled it out in the end. >> pelley: as in politics, things can change pretty quickly in sports. the nfl and its referees seemed ready to dig in for a long fight over pay and pension but that was before the uproar over that terrible call in the monday night game. now it appears the lockout may soon be over and jeff glor has the latest. jeff. >> reporter: scott, not done yet but much closer to tonight. we're told both sides have made major concessions and there might be a final deal in place by the end of tonight. it was the the blown call that apparently paved the way for the breakthrough. monday night's mess, when a replacement official called the disputed play for seattle seahawks, giving them an end of time win over the green bay packers, triggered a new flurry of negotiating between the nfl and the regular referees. now, three weeks of increasingly sloppy officiating handled by referees that were ernest but not experienc

're on the side of people who wanted to change that thee ok si but they stayed challenge. when ronald reagan called the soviet union the evil empire that gave them heart. that needs to be prevented. you have worries about particularly in syria, chemical weapons stock piles. you have attacks on embassies in libya and elsewhere around the world. this is exactly why it is so dangerous and so wrong to be playing these political games for the armed services. we need to have a strong economy and national defense. but the last thing we need to be doing is having these devastating cuts to our military readiness and that's what has to happen is stop these devastating cuts, come up with the cuts that have the right priority and make sure the men and women protecting our safety and our freedoms here have the best armments, the best equipment and making sure we get those good paying jobs and technology and defense here in virginia and not use then am a pon to raise taxes. >> no one's talking about using the military or veterans as pons, i mean, i haven't heard that stated except george kind of throw in

was different ronald reagan was even with president carter. they each got 40% and congressman anderson, i think got 20%. and that had been, you know, those numbers were historic that and it may or may not have influenced the race. it did have a post camp deathth toes and specifically it had to do with yet another u.n. resolution in which the u.n. passed a resolution that essentially equated jerusalem as being occupied and the occupation of that of jerusalem that issue and carter perhaps not strongly preventing that in the way that president obama . >> i don't -- [inaudible] he directed the u.n. delegate to vote for him. >> how do i know that? because he called me up. i was coming back from china and i was on the plane and the captain of the plane comes over and said, the president would like you to call him before you talk to the press when you land. so i said okay. so when we land, -- [laughter] when we land, i -- he called up this number, and the president took the call, and first little chitchat. how was your trip. okay. have you heard about my problem? so i said, yeah, i have, mr. president

back to ronald reagan and tip o'neill when social security was planned to go broke so it's not as if it's never happened before, and it has to happen to the estimate you think ronald reagan could be elected as a candidate to they come governor crist? >> i think would be difficult. i grew up at my during ronald reagan. one of the things i admired was his style, his grace and we need to have that back in the national dialogue and politics and the ability to get along and cooperate and respect each other, and until we get that mutual respect it is going to be very difficult to move things forward in this country but i believe we will get there because we have to get their and i want to thank governor schwarzenegger for inviting us here and having the leadership to do that. >> secretary, if you believe that lyndon johnson could be nominated as a democratic candidate today? >> i do. i do think he would because from the moderate wing, the clinton johnson but despite the joke about the governor -- [laughter] i noticed arnall -- arnold said something about body mass at the beginning. [laughter]

thinking, hey, ronald reagan said something kind of wacky, that'll destroy his presidency, it didn't. my advice to the romney campaign, we should write blogposts and say, hey, can you believe obama said that? the romney campaign needs to criticize president obama's policies and say what they would do instead. jon: so you're saying that they need to be more forward looking instead of looking in the rearview mirror every week? >> yes. i think if you look at the polls in detail, if you look at the inside, some of the questions, people aren't happy with the way the country is, but they're not similarly willing to say -- simply willing to say things are so horrible that whoever replaces him is going to be better. and people still blame president bush for the meltdown, so romney has a task, more subtle, complicated and challenging task, really, than i think his own campaign thought. they thought don't make mistakes, be acceptable, we'll win. it's not proving to be that simple which means that the camr challenge of making a positive change for their ayen da. i think they can do it, but they nee

opportunity. martha: not to pat your settle on the back. >> it was ronald reagan. i lost minnesota to beckel. he won everything. martha: we'll have you guys to talk about that. there must be good stories in that. >> there are many good story. >> i'm sure there. when you look at the campaign i'm curious what you think. after the ryan pick as i said, very nice move in the polls for mitt romney. that was a real strengthening moment. what do you see as the major factor that brought us to the numbers we're at right now in this race? >> i think romney's had a struggle the last couple weeks. obviously the 47% thing last week was not good. i think he is getting back in his groove. there is sufficient time to get this thing back on track. it's a narrow place where he has to go to win but i think it is all there. he just has to execute. he now has maximum television everywhere. they have a very strong ground game as does the obama team. it is really identifying voters and get them out and they're voting already. key thing, 30, 40% of the voters will vote before election day. you have to make sure ever

in the last 40 years to obtain that kind of support was ronald reagan within his own party. barack obama is more popular within the party and the base right now at this point in the election than bill clinton was, than jimmy carter was with his party and bush sr. was with his party. energy is hard to measure. the measurements we have show a reaganesque party unity. >> matt has this great piece in the rolling stone where he says the presidential race never, ever should have been this close. the idea that we become like sports announcers. we want the tight game going into the fourth quarter. we want a hail mary pass at the end because it is more exciting. he points out that, in fact, this race is one given both who mitt romney is as a candidate as well as the extremely high support that president obama has within his base should never have been this close at all which goes to your point about sometimes the massive amount of money that's gone into the race to give us a different message about mitt romney. >> i want to add one disagreement to the disagreement. as much as popularity and the f

, ronald reagan speech writer and adviser has long argued that there is no such thing as a bradley effect. the bradley effect is named for mayor tom bradley of los angeles when he ran against george deukmejian did not do as well in the final balloting is he had been doing in the polling. for years pundits have ascribe that to the brad the affected people are free to say they're not going to vote for african-american because they don't want to be up to the prejudice he they're talking anonymously to pollsters. and he has all the data, and i believe him, but i believe that even if the bradley effect was not true in 1982, latest here in 2012. there is a significant number of people, not for reasons related to race, but for reasons related to the nature of the democratic partisanship who are refusing to tell pollsters that they're not going to vote for president obama. there are quite frankly scared of the machine. and if you are a fan of chick-fil-a you know what i'm talking about. [applause] interestingly enough their is a potential vice presidential pick for each of these regions in each o

time. ronald reagan supported foreign aid. george h.w. bush and george w. bush did as well. look, i grew up in dubai and understand the power of american dollars overseas, whether it comes from u.s. foreign aid or from ivate bus.sines but what i do disagree with and what i think the governor will disagree with is we probably need to stop funding countries that clearly aren't working in our interest. >> give me a name tor two. >> i think if you look at the present course being run in egypt or even in pakistan, i think we need to put some restrictions on our dollars being spent there. >> because the u.s. does give more than $1 billion a year to each of these countries, almost $2 billion to pakistan, donna. is that money well spent or money thrown away? >> i think it's important that we do leverage our foreign dollars, whether we're giving them $1 billion or less than that. and that it's an important leverage to use in our diplomat toolbox. but at a time where most persons are feeling the pressure of this recession, or still feeling the pressure, there's no question that they're going

parties are getting in the way. ronald reagan could work with tip o'neill. bill clinton could work with newt gingrich. we have to get back to that context when it is not about political party but taking care of people and moving forward. leadership is not about blame. it is the house's fall for the president's fault. leadership is about rolling up your sleeves and locking yourself in a room and leading by example. congress has not been able to come of with a budget in 2,000 days. that is ridiculous. let's come up with a budget. there is legislation that is bipartisan. no budget no pay legislation says if congress doesn't do its job and have a responsible budget they don't get paid. that is a step in the right direction. my pledge is i will co-sponsor that legislation which is bipartisan and holds congress accountable for doing with their job which is passing a budget and they haven't done it in 2,000 days. has the no budget no pay legislation. >> the question is about compromise. give us another ec would be willing to compromise on. bera: there are many of us who thing no child lef

, who radio, when ronald reagan was on -- now, that is a republican radio station, yet they carry rush limbaugh. are you going to tell me rush limbaugh is not biased? your guess is full of beans in my opinion. thank you. guest: we have never tried to say that there is not a balance in the media system, that talk radio has not in a sense risen up because conservatives were looking for an alternative media channel where they could discuss things. when we analyze the news media, we are talking about the news media which claims to be objective. i do not think rush limbaugh claims to be objective in any way. i do not think that the liberal talk radio hosts that are out there accusing mitt romney of being a toad and a vampire would tell you they are an objective out of it. the whole question is -- the mainstream media that are the only ones being chosen to moderate our debate -- you know, there is no fox news mind control of who gets to moderate our debate. they claim to be objective. we would like to hold them accountable to that. host: did somebody really call mitt romney a toad? guest: mi

giraldi who used to work, i think, for ronald reagan, but i just want to tell you -- ask you is there a way, are you doing anything to get into the debate cycle with obama and romney? >> host: we had a similar question, governor johnson, via twitter. what do you say? >> guest: well, right now i'm excluded from the first debate. the commission that determines who gets in the debates is the presidential debate commission, and guess what? the presidential debate commission is private, and they're made up of republicans and democrats with absolutely no interest whatsoever in seeing a third voice on stage. we have filed three lawsuits to get me on stage based on other third-party candidates who have filed lawsuits. there doesn't seem to be, there doesn't seem to be much hope, but we filed on anti-trust grounds, something that has not been done before. >> host: how much do these debates matter, gary johnson, and what are you looking forward to hearing on wednesday? >> guest: well, the debates are tantamount to my having a chance at winning. without being on the debates, i think tha

" but let's look at the most watched debate in 1980, carter and ronald reagan. it was 8.6 million people tune in to that debate. more than any other so far. cynthia in savannah georgia democrats line. good morning. >> caller: good morning and thank you for accepting my call. >> host: sure thing. >> caller: yes, i am a democrat all of my life. i was in the medical profession for 40 years, so therefore i am very interested in what is happening in the medical section as far as medicare. i recently fell into the doughnut hole, so why you understand what that means. since now that i am retired ibm on a fixed budget. that's my first priority. but i will be listening tomorrow, wednesday night, and i have been listening at the republican convention and in very interested in what is going on. >> host: y watch, cynthia? what do you hope to gain from watching? >> caller: i have some idea i think my president has grown in a lot of the areas as far as foreign affairs, which i don't know anything much about. but i think mr. romney has the ability of leading a company, you know. there is a difference i

look 12. i got this. i was in the hotel room with ronald and nancy reagan, shouldn't you be doing your homework? i have the voice then that i have now, more or less, and i learned to play back. i would invariably show up without a pad and somebody would have to find me a pen. i can take my little boats and as my little questions. but now that does not happen. i am't have any sense that treated differently because i am a woman at this stage. >> it does happen. i have covered members of congress on capitol hill that think it is ok for them to put their arm around you while you are asking a question. there is a certain way that they treat you when you are young bird. -- younger. one thing that is interesting with the news hour, we do these interviews and they are among the best of the business. it is important to go back to your question, you don't have to print something that is not true at understanding that, having that confidence in yourself that someone gave me a complete line and i don't have to throw it in there because you need balance. you can do the truth finding yourself. it is

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